Klanghelm vu meter

Better to play back a tone recorded at -14 db FS and have that fader set at unity instead on your track but what Eric has suggested will also produce the same result. Don't use the meters in the M16E either, they might not tell you much. Are they proper VU response or just peak meters etc.. I think the Klanghelm meters will be good. Specs i5-2500K 3.5 Ghz - 8 Gb RAM - Win 7 64 bit - ATI Radeon HD6900 Series - RME PCI HDSP9632 - Steinberg Midex 8 Midi interface - Faderport 8- Studio One V4 - iMac 2.5Ghz Core i5 - Sierra 10.12.6 - Focusrite Clarett thunderbolt interface Poor minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas -Eleanor Roosevelt M@ B Max Output Level: -68 dBFS Total Posts : 1128 Joined: 2010/01/05 20:54:54 Status: offline Re:Output meter to show actual Analog level? 2012/02/06 19:18:20 (permalink) I just went and checked out the metering options on Voxengo Elephant and there are 8 different settings to choose from (dbfs, dbfs+3, k20, k14, k12, k20c, k14c, k12c). I current have it set to dbfs, the default setting. Do any of the other options display the analog levels? ------------------ EDIT: After doing a little reading I've come to find out that "K-metering" requires the SPL of the monitoring area to first be calibrated. Realistically, I don't think I'll be doing that in the immediate future, maybe sometime down the line, but not now, especially since I'm not finished treating the room. post edited by M@ B - 2012/02/06 23:36:33 Jeff Evans Max Output Level: -24 dBFS Total Posts : 5139 Joined: 2009/04/13 18:20:16Location: Ballarat, Australia Status: offline Re:Output meter to show actual Analog level? 2012/02/07 02:27:59 (permalink) For those who are interested I have just download and tested the Klanghelm VU meter VST. It is pretty good actually. Out of the various VU meter VST's I have tried this one is probably the best so far. There is still nothing like looking at two very nice expensive VU meters in a nice box and all but I must say these things are good. I had to tweak the fall time of the Klanghelm meter to get it to respond the same way as my API meters do. But it is very close. In terms of monitoring input/buss/master levels they are spot on and agree

Very well with the real deal. I just have to watch the two of them for a while longer to see how the ballistics stack up. The real ones still seem slightly smoother in terms of how the needle sways etc but they are spot on in terms of showing levels etc. To be fair on the Klanghelm there are quite a few adjustments that effect how it moves so I will spend some more time on that. I feel I can get them very close to the real thing in time. The Klanghelm is very good in showing digital peaks and lots of other info at the same time. Much more info in general than a normal VU would show. There are 4 skins but I like the standard one I think the best. They are very cheap and would be a great addition to any DAW metering option. I still think the BlueCat meter in some ways is very hard to beat too but that is not a standard VU configuration but rather a bar graph option. Specs i5-2500K 3.5 Ghz - 8 Gb RAM - Win 7 64 bit - ATI Radeon HD6900 Series - RME PCI HDSP9632 - Steinberg Midex 8 Midi interface - Faderport 8- Studio One V4 - iMac 2.5Ghz Core i5 - Sierra 10.12.6 - Focusrite Clarett thunderbolt interface Poor minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas -Eleanor Roosevelt GIM Productions Max Output Level: -73 dBFS Total Posts : 860 Joined: 2005/12/14 05:07:56 Status: offline Re:Output meter to show actual Analog level? 2012/02/07 02:37:09 (permalink) Hi all,remember that you must turn on your post button in every prochannel for correct Klanghelm gain stage,but not in the master bus couse i will see the final gain RMS level of my prj.The last...use your VU level meters and your ears togheter.Best.Roby Intel i7 3600,Asus Z170P,16 GIG Corsair ram,Focusrite Saffire Pro 26 i\o,Nektar Impact LX 49,Focusrite Liquid Mix,Monitors ADAM-K&H,Sonar PlatinumWindows 10 SP1Producer....more stuff in SStudio, Rome ,Italy. The Maillard Reaction Max Output Level: 0 dBFS Total Posts : 31918 Joined: 2004/07/09 20:02:20 Status: offline Re:Output meter to show actual Analog level? 2012/02/07 07:38:47 (permalink) Good Times! best regards, mike ltb Max Output Level: -48 dBFS Total Posts : 2707 Joined: 2005/06/19 13:34:08 Status: offline Re:Output meter to show actual Analog level? 2012/02/07 08:39:11 (permalink) THambrecht Max Output Level: -73

The deluxe version for 10 € by using the purchase-link in their Klanghelm user account. VUMT Painstakingly modeled behavior and recreation of the general ballistics of classic VU meters three different VU implementations to choose from unique overshoot control to match your favorite analog VU meter you are familiar with, tweak-able rise/fallback times PPM DIN (Type I) mode with adjustable rise/fallback times RMS meter with selectable "+3dB (AES-17)" option and adjustable RMS-window plus integrated peak-bargraphand K-12, K-14, K-20 scales to enable proper K-metering Fully customizable smart Clip-LED: lights up yellow/orange when exceeding a user defined level(your headroom) and turns red when digital overs are taking place switchable (and customizable) hold needle which shows the current max VU value switchable (and customizable) numerical readouts for peak and meter values included TRIM controls for left, right, mid, side channels to make gain staging easy Easy on the eyes, comes with EIGHT skins to be pleasant to look at for (almost) everybody optional editable instance label GUI resizing - select from 6 different GUI sizes option to show the meters only and hide all controls from the GUI on stereo channel you can switch between single and dual meter display preset browser with easy copy/paste, save as default... global settings to customize knob-behavior, adjust the refresh rate of the meter-needles and more dedicated standalone application included (Note: the standalone version needs a physical input to display levels. So if you want to use it in conjunction with a media player, you can do

Meter the +4dBu/0VU signal to read -3 on the M-16E.-3 on the M-16E now visually represents +4dBu/0VUYou now have 15dB of metering headroom to meter all 14dB of level left from your VS100 M@ B Max Output Level: -68 dBFS Total Posts : 1128 Joined: 2010/01/05 20:54:54 Status: offline Re:Output meter to show actual Analog level? 2012/02/06 18:06:26 (permalink) Thank you for taking the time to put together such a detailed set of instructions, that was very cool of you to do and is very appreciated. After reading the steps a couple of times, I think I should be able to handle doing that. Though for the same reason that you suggested that I use outputs 3 and 4 on the VS100 (to take the volume pot out of the path), I would not be opposed to and actually would welcome taking the M-16E out of the path by using a sufficient digital meter. A couple have been suggested, the Klanghelm VUs are just $9. Would these address the problem? Thanks again. Eric Beam Max Output Level: -88 dBFS Total Posts : 132 Joined: 2011/04/02 00:42:19Location: Los Angeles Status: offline Re:Output meter to show actual Analog level? 2012/02/06 18:16:13 (permalink) Sure they will work, might want to try the free psp VU meters to see if you like using digital VU's. Just pick a calibration standard & get used to it. Eric Beam Max Output Level: -88 dBFS Total Posts : 132 Joined: 2011/04/02 00:42:19Location: Los Angeles Status: offline Re:Output meter to show actual Analog level? 2012/02/06 18:21:43 (permalink) I personally have a few pieces of hardware that I tend to monitor. But at the end of the day the Nugen Visualizer is my goto mastering meter. I've been using the K-System for sometime now. Jeff Evans Max Output Level: -24 dBFS Total Posts : 5139 Joined: 2009/04/13 18:20:16Location: Ballarat, Australia Status: offline Re:Output meter to show actual Analog level? 2012/02/06 18:24:16 (permalink) I have just ordered and paid for the VU meters from Klanghelm. They say it takes 24 hours to get the VST etc (or less hopefully) I will let you know how they go and how well they work compared to the real VU's. I have tried the PSP meters and did not like them at all. They are nothing like real VU's. (tone wise and calibration they are fine but not ballistics) Also it might be

Quote: Originally Posted by Yiannis ➡️ The "problem" in this situation is that when you try to compare El Rey with another compressor you look at the meters and you say........>.....and then you boost both outs about 10 dbs......Thats not fair because El Rey is taking out only half of the dbs it shows and you boost more output than the other compressor.To make it more clear.El Rey showing 10db GR but it's only 5dbs and you boost 10 db of output.LA 2A showing 10db GR and you boost 10 db of output.Which one will sound better (louder)?Is this how the real thing behaves? Well, if you use your ears, you'll never compare something that is 5db different.Anyway, Acustica's meters are still bad imo, El Rey, for example, is very slow to me. But some compressors, and plugins emulating them, may differ in what the GR meter show, and what it's really doing. MJUC, for example, compress a lot early than it shows on the needle. And Klanghelm for sure knows how to make meters, just look at VUMT. Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 662 🎧 20 years Quote: Originally Posted by SameOh ➡️ Well, if you use your ears, you'll never compare something that is 5db different.Anyway, Acustica's meters are still bad imo, El Rey, for example, is very slow to me. But some compressors, and plugins emulating them, may differ in what the GR meter show, and what it's really doing. MJUC, for example, compress a lot early than it shows on the needle. And Klanghelm for sure knows how to make meters, just look at VUMT. I am talking about meteting ,maybe ,issue here and If El Rey reduction is really what it shows on its VU not if I can use my ears to

What is a VU Meter and Why Should You Care?A VU meter (Volume Unit meter) is an essential tool for audio engineers, visually representing the amplitude of an audio signal. By monitoring these levels during recording and mixing, sound professionals ensure optimal volume. Too much gain leads to distortion, while too little results in weak sound. VU meters help strike the right balance, ensuring that every element in your mix, from vocals to instruments, fits together seamlessly, creating a polished, professional sound.The History of the VU Meter: From Analog to DigitalIntroduced in the 1930s, VU meters helped engineers understand and control audio signal levels in analog recording studios. Over time, as audio technology evolved, digital meters replaced analog systems, offering more precision but losing the tactile charm of mechanical needles. Today, hybrid systems combine both analog and digital meters, allowing engineers to enjoy the best of both worlds: accuracy and the nostalgic visual feedback of VU meters.How VU Meters Work: The Science of Sound LevelsUnlike peak meters that measure instantaneous volume spikes, VU meters show the average volume over time. This is more reflective of how we hear sound, which varies depending on frequency. The decibel (dB) scale on VU meters helps engineers avoid distortion by displaying levels between -20 dBu to +3 dBu, with the ideal level resting around zero. Understanding this helps maintain clarity and balance in your mixes, ensuring the music sounds rich and dynamic without distortion.Why Music Lovers Should Care About Track LevelsUnderstanding audio levels isn't just for engineers—it's key to appreciating music. Whether a track feels vibrant or flat often depends on how well its levels are balanced during mixing. Properly balanced levels make vocals, instruments, and bass complement each other, while improper levels lead to muddied sound or distortion. As a listener, recognizing the role of these levels can deepen your connection to the music, highlighting intricate details and enhancing your auditory experience.The Future of VU Meters in a Digital WorldAs audio technology continues to evolve, the question arises: Will VU meters survive in an era of digital precision? While digital tools like peak meters and LUFS standards offer unmatched accuracy, the tactile feedback of VU meters holds unique value. Many modern studios use hybrid setups, combining digital precision with the visual satisfaction of VU meters. Rather than disappearing, traditional meters are adapting to coexist with advanced tools, offering a balance between nostalgia and innovation.Conclusion: Embrace the VU Meter for a Better MixWhether you’re a budding producer or a seasoned audio engineer, mastering the VU meter can elevate your mixing skills. By understanding how to use VU meters, you can ensure your tracks sound their best—balanced, clear, and free of distortion. Next time you